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Alevi people are Turkish nomads not Kurdish because kurdish people are from mesopotamia and never been in (Turkistan) Turkmen

Delete All Kurdish word with Turkish and Turks because Kurdish are Şafiî people and Alevi People Turkish nomad ethnical from Türkmen From (Türkistan) izzettin Dogan HaydarHaydarHaydar (talk) 21:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source to back up your claims? PhilKnight (talk) 21:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Blocked. PhilKnight (talk) 22:33, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kizilbashism and "Teachings of" infobox section

"Anatolian alevism" is really an artificial, exogenous academic term, thats generally not used outside of acaedmia; some sources in the article opt for "kizilbashism", which is in fact a common colloquial term that is actually in use, I think its preferable. Another thing is that the "Teachings of" section in the Infobox is incomplete: at the very least, the figues mentioned in the citations of this very article should be mentioned.

That's about it, I made a more in-detail post about these topics, with the specific citations themselves, but when I posted it, it didn't show up, it wasn't deleted, it just didn't show up, maybe a bug you guys should look into. 2A01:C22:8511:8600:B554:691:4421:CD38 (talk) 18:52, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You’re not allowed to edit till your block expires. [1] HistoryofIran (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Christianity

Forbes says Alevi is a mystical belief that is rooted in Islam and Sufism with some traditions of Christianity and Shamanism. citing BBC's news, which is nonsense. The narrator uses only "prophet Jesus". Of course this has nothing to do with Christianity but Islamic prophet Isa. Second source says it's a claim, not fact. This has no place on the lead, which is factually incorrect. Beshogur (talk) 15:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some shoalrs see similarities due to the belief in a trinity of some sort (God, Ali, Muhammad) and the pre-eternity of those figures. Since Christianity (especially Nestorianism) was prevalent at the time, influence is more likely than unlikely. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 19:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semah

I was trying to add information about the origins of Alevi Semah dance rituals, but for some reason my contribution got deleted. I did reference to sources i had found from YouTube, which shows close similarites to Central Asian semah dances. Eg5033 (talk) 15:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube is not a reliable source, as everyone can make a video and claims within that video without any factcheck or peer review. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 19:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The source cited does not mention anything about "Tengri"

Tengrism is a very specific term and the source cited says that "shamanism" or "Central Asian (Khorasan) shamanism" influenced Alevism, using Tengrism in the article is anachronistic and is not supported by the source itself. See the image on the right. 𝙲𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚞𝚜 𝚁𝚘𝚗𝚒𝚗 (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]